http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/ A kinky educator, performer, and activist for kinky sex, bdsm, and rope bondage Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:49:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-13157 Loki Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:54:25 +0000 http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-13157 The whole "above the waist" guideline is based on the assumption that the audience has zero understanding of anatomy and electricity. It's short and easy to remember. The problem is it's got loads of exploitable exceptions once you do your damned homework on the subject, and suddenly the people who only know the bumper sticker rule are in a tizzy over relatively safe play. Sad that the people with more understanding get muzzled by people who only know the paint-by-numbers rules. Good for you for not caving in to that nonsense. The whole “above the waist” guideline is based on the assumption that the audience has zero understanding of anatomy and electricity. It’s short and easy to remember. The problem is it’s got loads of exploitable exceptions once you do your damned homework on the subject, and suddenly the people who only know the bumper sticker rule are in a tizzy over relatively safe play. Sad that the people with more understanding get muzzled by people who only know the paint-by-numbers rules. Good for you for not caving in to that nonsense.

]]> http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-12948 Gray Dancer Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:44:51 +0000 http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-12948 I appreciate that, Nobilis, and that's why I posted the blog entry and did most of a podcast about it. Even though it would have disrupted the "scene" to have done it in the last podcast, I could have done it before or after. I'm glad you (and quite a few others) brought it up. I appreciate that, Nobilis, and that’s why I posted the blog entry and did most of a podcast about it. Even though it would have disrupted the “scene” to have done it in the last podcast, I could have done it before or after. I’m glad you (and quite a few others) brought it up.

]]> http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-12946 Nobilis Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:34:04 +0000 http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-12946 What I was worried about in my email was not so much that you were doing something that has some (arguably small) risk, but that you weren't also demonstrating that you were aware of the risk. What I was worried about in my email was not so much that you were doing something that has some (arguably small) risk, but that you weren’t also demonstrating that you were aware of the risk.

]]> http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-12903 Sirkut Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:10:41 +0000 http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-12903 Most people that do electro long enough to feel confident about it feel that it's relatively safe to put a trode on either side of the nipple, but stay away from sending current across the chest by putting one trode on each nipple. Some people claim to have felt heartbeat abnormalities when going nipple to nipple, and PES (Paradise Electro Stimulations) claim to have seen it on an EKG. Generally the concern is that you'll put stress on a genetically weak heart - probably similar risk to someone dying after running a marathon after being otherwise healthy. Most people that do electro long enough to feel confident about it feel that it’s relatively safe to put a trode on either side of the nipple, but stay away from sending current across the chest by putting one trode on each nipple. Some people claim to have felt heartbeat abnormalities when going nipple to nipple, and PES (Paradise Electro Stimulations) claim to have seen it on an EKG.
Generally the concern is that you’ll put stress on a genetically weak heart - probably similar risk to someone dying after running a marathon after being otherwise healthy.

]]> http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-12901 Evan Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:38:22 +0000 http://www.graydancer.com/2008/05/30/not-above-the-waist/#comment-12901 I got to sit in this morning on a presentation from one of the lawyers from Taser(tm) where he explained that the frequency and pulse width of a signal designed to stimulate skeletal muscle contraction is way below that of what is required to stimulate the kind of muscle tissue that makes up the heart. They then showed videos of older police officers with an electrodes taped to one foot and the opposite shoulder getting hit hard enough to cause their entire body to seize up for five seconds, with no ill effect other than some sore muscles. I think that the likelihood of a low power device like an e-stim posing any kind of significant risk to anyone not wearing a pacemaker has been vastly overstated, although with good intentions. Just my 2 cents. I got to sit in this morning on a presentation from one of the lawyers from Taser(tm) where he explained that the frequency and pulse width of a signal designed to stimulate skeletal muscle contraction is way below that of what is required to stimulate the kind of muscle tissue that makes up the heart. They then showed videos of older police officers with an electrodes taped to one foot and the opposite shoulder getting hit hard enough to cause their entire body to seize up for five seconds, with no ill effect other than some sore muscles. I think that the likelihood of a low power device like an e-stim posing any kind of significant risk to anyone not wearing a pacemaker has been vastly overstated, although with good intentions. Just my 2 cents.

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